Canadian 7 Posted May 23, 2014 Share Posted May 23, 2014 ....that nobody south of the border has purchased this car: http://www.ebay.com/itm/Lotus-Super-Seven-Caterham-SuperLight-R-Caterham-SuperLight-R450-Carbon-Fiber-Leather-3-Piece-Wheels-/111359974130?forcerrptr=true&hash=item19ed925af2&item=111359974130&pt=US_Cars_Trucks If it was 2 years older - to be legal to import to Canada - I would probably have it in my garage all ready! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
S1Steve Posted May 23, 2014 Share Posted May 23, 2014 ....that nobody south of the border has purchased this car: http://www.ebay.com/itm/Lotus-Super-Seven-Caterham-SuperLight-R-Caterham-SuperLight-R450-Carbon-Fiber-Leather-3-Piece-Wheels-/111359974130?forcerrptr=true&hash=item19ed925af2&item=111359974130&pt=US_Cars_Trucks If it was 2 years older - to be legal to import to Canada - I would probably have it in my garage all ready! Yep that's a great pick, it would look good in your garage.... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Croc Posted May 23, 2014 Share Posted May 23, 2014 To be honest when this car first came up for sale it caught my attention by having a 270hp zetec - a pretty rare engine spec that deserved a good look. Plus it was a nice looking color combination. At that time the seller was asking for a fair bit more that was too much for the market. Looks like the seller is adjusting down to meet the market which is a good thing for a buyer out there somewhere. As S1Steve knows, I think I have done enough damage with Ebay purchases lately so it will not be me! :leaving: Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AndyB Posted May 23, 2014 Share Posted May 23, 2014 ....that nobody south of the border has purchased this car: http://www.ebay.com/itm/Lotus-Super-Seven-Caterham-SuperLight-R-Caterham-SuperLight-R450-Carbon-Fiber-Leather-3-Piece-Wheels-/111359974130?forcerrptr=true&hash=item19ed925af2&item=111359974130&pt=US_Cars_Trucks If it was 2 years older - to be legal to import to Canada - I would probably have it in my garage all ready! Bring it in as a track car, flip the plates with yours and who would know? The only problem, you might be driving under insured depending on the value of your current Seven Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kitcat Posted May 23, 2014 Share Posted May 23, 2014 (edited) Quite a car. The 217 RWHP for a Zetec is very impressive: mine is reputed to make 170RWHP and I can keep up with most cars at the track. Price is realistic also(IMHO) and who knows, he sounds motivated, maybe he'd shave a few more thou off? Tires are 16 years old so have to be replaced, not sure I believe the engine's redline of10K RPM's. Edited May 23, 2014 by Kitcat Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
xcarguy Posted May 23, 2014 Share Posted May 23, 2014 Bring it in as a track car, flip the plates with yours and who would know? Now, everybody!:smilielol5: Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AndyB Posted May 23, 2014 Share Posted May 23, 2014 Now, everybody!:smilielol5: But were are family:) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
xcarguy Posted May 23, 2014 Share Posted May 23, 2014 But were are family:) Tis' true. :iagree: Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Blokko Posted May 23, 2014 Share Posted May 23, 2014 Oh how I'd love to have this as my weekend car for my stay in the US. Presuming that registration in MA would have all the same issues as discussed in my earlier threads.... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wemtd Posted May 23, 2014 Share Posted May 23, 2014 Don't give up hope.. one of these might work nicely in Mass. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Klasik-69 Posted May 23, 2014 Share Posted May 23, 2014 "Owner said he put $30K in the motor"........Really ? A Cosworth 295 HP engine is available for about $18K but the owner opted to spend $12k more for 25 HP less. Maybe I'm overlooking something here, like the $30K included the transmission, a ECU . Jon @ Caterham USA is very capable but I'd want to see the dyno sheet which is claimed to be included on the listing but I couldn't find it. At first it looks like he is selling the car then he claims he's selling it for a friend for health reasons........too much baggage here. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SteveS Posted May 24, 2014 Share Posted May 24, 2014 I saw a dyno chart at the very tail end of the dozen or so photos. It's dated 3/29/14 Steve S. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
xcarguy Posted May 24, 2014 Share Posted May 24, 2014 "Owner said he put $30K in the motor"........Really ? A Cosworth 295 HP engine is available for about $18K but the owner opted to spend $12k more for 25 HP less. Maybe I'm overlooking something here, like the $30K included the transmission, a ECU . Jon @ Caterham USA is very capable but I'd want to see the dyno sheet which is claimed to be included on the listing but I couldn't find it. At first it looks like he is selling the car then he claims he's selling it for a friend for health reasons........too much baggage here. I saw a dyno chart at the very tail end of the dozen or so photos. It's dated 3/29/14 Steve S. The eBay listing claims the 217rwhp is equal to 290hp at the crank. That's a parasitic loss of around 26% which seems a bit extreme. I’ve always used 15% as a good middle-of-the-road rule of thumb. 15% would give the engine a rating of 255hp at the crank. That would put the engine much closer to Caterhams USA's original 260hp estimate. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
super7guy Posted May 24, 2014 Share Posted May 24, 2014 Got curious, so ran some numbers rpm HP TQ 3450 90 137 4100 110 141 4750 130 144 5400 165 160 6050 190 165 6700 210 165 7000 217 163 7350 210 150 As rule of thumb, most 2.0L put out TQ of 150 and 1.6L put out TQ of 125. There are some motors that are outside these numbers, but they either have very high compression and run very high RPMs, or both. Wayne, 187 RWHP Zetec Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
scannon Posted May 24, 2014 Share Posted May 24, 2014 As rule of thumb, most 2.0L put out TQ of 150 and 1.6L put out TQ of 125. There are some motors that are outside these numbers, but they either have very high compression and run very high RPMs, or both. Wayne, 187 RWHP Zetec Unless they are boosted. The 1.8 Miata engine in my Caterham dyno'd out at 301 RWHP and 265 torque. Totally stock engine with the addition of a turbo, big injectors and a Hydra Nemesis ECU. I agree with the 15% difference which would put the Miata engine at 346 flywheel HP. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Canadian 7 Posted May 24, 2014 Author Share Posted May 24, 2014 "Bring it in as a track car, flip the plates with yours and who would know? The only problem, you might be driving under insured depending on the value of your current Seven ." Hey Andy, if you do this and give it your vin I will gladly purchase the car from you and pay you an extra couple thousand! Ron Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
xcarguy Posted May 24, 2014 Share Posted May 24, 2014 Unless they are boosted. The 1.8 Miata engine in my Caterham dyno'd out at 301 RWHP and 265 torque. Totally stock engine with the addition of a turbo, big injectors and a Hydra Nemesis ECU. I agree with the 15% difference which would put the Miata engine at 346 flywheel HP. Careful, man! You're cheating yourself outta' hoss powa'; 301/.85=354 and some change. That's eight more ponies! :drool: . . . . :cheers: Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AndyB Posted May 24, 2014 Share Posted May 24, 2014 Hey Ron if I do that you can have my current 7 less vin but the big horses stay in my garage. Think how much fun I could have at the Powerade Centre in that beast on the 14th. Dreams. Are you going to that event? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Canadian 7 Posted May 25, 2014 Author Share Posted May 25, 2014 I don't even know what that event is? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AndyB Posted May 25, 2014 Share Posted May 25, 2014 I don't even know what that event is? Don't want to hijack thread but this event. You provide the car and get to drive donating customers around and autoX course. If you enjoy autoX it's a great day. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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