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Been there done that. Needed my neighbors to help me out again! :iamwithstupid:

I guess I better not make fun of dune buggies in the future - some people are sensitive. Getting an early run on the weekend's update Caterham 270 SV - this is for Kevin in response to his question above. Seems a decent price for a 2014 year model. Looks like the updated Sigma engine rather than Zetec? $39800 BIN http://www.ebay.com/itm/Triumph-Other-270-SV-/391587567747?forcerrptr=true&hash=item5b2c701883:g:c7UAAOSwpLNX9~yo&item=391587567747 1988 Caterham S3 with 1700 Crossflow. UK import - RHD http://www.usa7s.net/vb/attachment.php?attachmentid=11888&stc=1 Lots of options and bits. $30k BIN or auction is at $15k http://www.ebay.com/itm/Lotus-Other-SUPER-SPRINT-/252589075404?forcerrptr=true&hash=item3acf7b6bcc:g:-VMAAOSwCGVYBCn8&item=252589075404 Its not a seven but does have its DNA through the people involved in the Zenos project. Its being sold by forum member Randy Chase Asking $57k in the US http://www.usa7s.net/vb/attachment.php?attachmentid=11889&stc=1 http://www.ebay.com/itm/Lotus-Other-/191997880535?forcerrptr=true&hash=item2cb3f728d7:g:BugAAOSwmLlX7QSO&item=191997880535 Superformance S1 in CA in dark metallic green. Back again on auction. This is the one that always has interesting bidding history. Currently bid to $21150 http://www.ebay.com/itm/1967-Replica-Kit-Makes-SUPER-7-2-Seater-/322293074612?forcerrptr=true&hash=item4b0a2a0ab4:g:NwMAAOSwFe5XyIT~&item=322293074612 Yellow ultralite with blue noseband and stripe currently at ad price of $29,995 http://www.ebay.com/itm/Other-Makes-Ultralite-S2K-/351872841420?forcerrptr=true&hash=item51ed4176cc:g:x~8AAOSw8gVX-95U&item=351872841420 Westfield pre-lit at $26,995 http://www.ebay.com/itm/Lotus-Super-7-Series-3-/162236795328?forcerrptr=true&hash=item25c61109c0:g:cfkAAOSwmLlX~ox~&item=162236795328 Lotus Seven S4 $22995 http://www.ebay.com/itm/Lotus-Super-Seven-S4-/272415458092?forcerrptr=true&hash=item3f6d3a032c:g:2xYAAOSw8w1YAznf&item=272415458092 1988 Caterham 7 S3 in CA at $22750 https://orangecounty.craigslist.org/cto/5822710035.html 1996 Caterham 7 classic at $24500 http://www.usa7s.net/vb/attachment.php?attachmentid=11890&stc=1 http://sanantonio.craigslist.org/cto/5820388165.html 2015 LS1 Stalker at $35000 in NY (White Plains) http://newyork.craigslist.org/wch/cto/5814007161.html 1995 Westfield with Toyota engine $18950 http://tulsa.craigslist.org/cto/5777542258.html Another Stalker with 3.4V6 in Indianapolis at $18000 http://indianapolis.craigslist.org/cto/5766415684.html Lotus 7 with BDR in CO $23900 http://denver.craigslist.org/cto/5837486695.html Locost with 1500 Datsun engine in CA at $10500 http://monterey.craigslist.org/cto/5838148550.html Another early replica in NC. 1960s build in the UK then sent to South Africa as a race car then to US in the 1970s. Asking $16500 https://hickory.craigslist.org/cto/5811449204.html 2001 Birkin in MI at $26500 https://www.hemmings.com/classifieds/cars-for-sale/birkin/s3/1878050.html 1962 Lotus 7 S2 at Fantasy Junction for $42500 https://www.hemmings.com/classifieds/dealer/lotus/7a/1875222.html !964 Lotus 7 S2 in CT at Automotive Restorations - $43500 https://www.hemmings.com/classifieds/dealer/lotus/super-seven/1871753.html 1981 DSK racing replica with a Cosworth YBB engine at $32900 https://www.hemmings.com/classifieds/dealer/lotus/super-seven/1864119.html 1959 Lotus 7 S1 in NY at $27900 https://www.hemmings.com/classifieds/cars-for-sale/lotus/7/1861752.html 1963 Lotus 7 S2 in Canada at US$39750 https://www.hemmings.com/classifieds/cars-for-sale/lotus/super-seven/1843916.html Stalker chassis 94 V6 in TX at $18500 https://www.hemmings.com/classifieds/cars-for-sale/lotus/7/1832388.html 1969 Lotus 7 in CA - not much in ad details and not even a photo of the actual car for sale Asking $22k https://www.hemmings.com/classifieds/cars-for-sale/lotus/7/1827972.html Another replica something in the PNW at $26500 https://classiccars.com/listings/view/892840/1957-lotus-super-seven-replica-for-sale-in-gladstone-oregon-97027 1969 Lotus 7 with series 4 frame and series 3 body at $26500 https://classiccars.com/listings/view/715384/1969-lotus-seven-for-sale-in-spokane-washington-99208

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The Caterham SV's come up regularly. There is one out there now for sale by word of mouth. At least one a month comes up. There is a price premium on these because of their relative rarity - call it 20-25% extra over the S3 chassis. Now that Birkin sells their own wider version that is one to keep an eye out for too - similar dimensions to the Caterham SV. CSRs are rare. I have seen 5 come up for sale in the last 5 years. None are 360 engine package - they were all the Cosworth Duratec 263hp package. The two cheapest were RHD and only one of those dropped below $50k. All others were higher values. Post what you are looking for and you may trigger some interest from a seller not actively advertising. This is the time of year to do a deal - just before winter.

Hi Jay, Perfect for touring around the country CT lanes. Stop your traveling and drive it! Congratulations on the choice! Cheers mike

First things first - when dialing in a suspension, change one thing at a time, test and then evaluate the result. Dont change all at once as you have no idea what made a difference. I would not change the camber. The Avon ZZRs require at least 2.5deg to work best on non-IRS Caterhams on track. I agree with Warren that it does sound too much but it works in practice on track. Hopeless on road that way though and only works with ZZRs or slicks. Wider tires just scrub more so thats not the solution. I have always disconnected the rear anti roll bar - I think sevens handle better with some rear end softness as it enhances the weight transfer effects. You state you don't want to change the rear end but often problems at one end of the car are solved by reworking the other end. Easy one to try out in session 1 at the track - even if only to rule it out. You could drop the fronts to 15psi. Some have gone as low as 14psi in the UK but that feels too low. Easy one to try at the track in session 2. Never tested rake personally but I would be curious if the 5mm gain to 15mm does anything. I know Westfields are very sensitive to rake but never tested a Caterham this way. I am traveling and cannot look it up in my car files at home but what is the Caterham standard spec toe? Toe out generally improves your turn in but rapid turn in does not always translate into higher front in grip as it can still push.

Insurance won't be an issue with the right insurer. The definitions are different. Worry about getting it on the road first then worry about insurance. I read section 175.209 multiple ways: 1) Assume Birkin is a recognized manufacturer - no bumpers required as it was not included in the design. 2) Birkin replicates Lotus 7 which is the recognized manufacturer and no bumpers were in that original design. They will argue back that Birkin is not a recognized manufacturer by their definition and you are under the special construction rules since there is not PA replica rule as such. As a result the default position will require bumpers.

What a great thread to follow! I hope you enjoy many miles of reliable blatting.

Birkin bumpers - refer post 16 onwards on this forum page for photos http://www.usa7s.net/vb/showthread.php?1395-CT-Inspection-Registration-We-Got-Bumpers!!!!!/page2&highlight=bumper

Firstly, I am really sorry to read this post. It brings back the rubbish I and others had to deal with in NJ. It looks like the insanity has crossed the border. Do you have the rules that they are using as the checklist for this inspection? Any reasoned addressing of the issues they failed you on would need to be researched before remediation if they are going to continue being "strict constructionist" in their approach to your Birkin. Otherwise they potentially will continue to reject after you made remediation modifications. Some of their findings strike me as "make difficult" rather than valid concerns specified in an official PA vehicle safety reg document that their inspection is based off. Half of my NJ specialty inspection findings disappeared once I did an FOI for their internal inspection manuals and read them carefully and came to the next inspection with the manual and an attorney. For potential off the shelf solutions to the minor issues I like CarBuilder Solutions in the UK http://www.carbuildersolutions.com/uk/ For your exposed exhaust system problem, I still have the shielding I did for my Caterham to pass the NJ specialty inspection which had an identical concern. It accidentally fell off in my garage afterwards - not sure how? It should fit your car. You are welcome to it if it helps you. For bumpers, there was a photo in a post made by Bruce (11Budlight) a long time back with bumpers fitted on his Birkin to pass CT inspection. If I recall he used something off a trailer. I vaguely recall Paul (Wemtd) did something similar. As Skip notes there were bumpers being passed around for CT at one point but no idea where they are now. Edited to add: If you need to temporarily borrow a Caterham windshield with integrated demister like Skip suggested above then I have an SV sized one off my car currently plus I am sure Tom could be persuaded to lend his S3 one for a good purpose.

How do the cars behind see your point bys Dan? :jester:

For GBP30,000 extra I am definitely not feeling a woody.

Hi Jim, Yes I have a SBFS half hood for the CSR and I previously had one on my earlier yellow SV. Definitely helps with wind control. Works better with the modified perspex wind wings. I liked it for around the streets. No sun on me but felt open and airy. I learned my second time around and got the easy in option. Makes a big difference. Do you want me to put the windscreen on/half hood on and let you try it out to see if you like it? Cheers mike

Its sevenesque. It looks better than a Lotus S4 but would likely be slower with a dak dak engine compared with the twin cam in the Lotus. And with VW/Porsche suspension technology, I also believe it would handle worse than a Lotus 7 S4. But its $6 grand and has clams!!!!! http://www.usa7s.net/vb/attachment.php?attachmentid=11803&stc=1 http://www.dailyturismo.com/2016/10/caterwagen-2001-volkswagen-dune-buggy.html http://www.premium-motors.com/view_vehicle.html?vehicle_id=1159

Sounds like 10 times more detailed than the Caterham build manual?

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Hi Mike Its the same Caterham I have been using for years over in UK and Europe for Silverstone, Spa Francorchamps, Dijon, Magny Cours, Angelsey, Donington, Brands Hatch, etc. or Duratec 180hp with the 6 speed so yes roughly the same as the SVT Zetec. Max revs at 6800rpm which limits me to around 115-188mph - I have to lift off in 6th frequently to keep it under the limit. Its on its 5th engine I think. No windscreen or headlights. I quite happily run on less power than my CSR - you have seen me get out in my maroon standard zetec with 135hp and have fun. There is a huge contrast between my CSR and a R300 and its not all negative on the R300 since it is lighter, more agile and more interactive because of the de dion. More power is not always a better thing despite what many people on this forum would think. You have to drive the two sevens back to back to see what I mean. Apart from having fun, my objective on these days is to get within 4% of the R300 fastest qualifying lap/lap record on that circuit by the end of the first day. I always manage to achieve it, apart from Spa where I needed another hour the next morning to work up some courage to not lift on eau rouge. Cheers mike

And for the next 2 weekends you are likely without me posting updates on this thread. I am off to eastern Europe with Bookatrack to drive a Caterham 7 R300 at Brno Circuit, Slovakia Ring and Hungaroring. Video and photos thread when I return. :seeya::driving:

Well I had a bummer of a weekend after my two days on track were washed out. The drinks in the evening were some consolation. Ex- Dennis Brunton Super Storker for sale by Gator Motorsport at $36830. I have to love a name like Gator Motorsport - my brothers! http://www.ebay.com/itm/Replica-Kit-Makes-Brunton-Superstalker-Super-Stalker-/331970845414?forcerrptr=true&hash=item4d4b011ae6:g:GRsAAOSwOVpXYp8V&item=331970845414 1995 PA Caterham crossflow at $23k BIN. Cheapest Caterham out there by a long way - sort of surprised it has not sold already? http://www.ebay.com/itm/Other-Makes-caterham-convertible-/182289889065?forcerrptr=true&hash=item2a7152f729:g:Tm4AAOSwFdtXzxaF&item=182289889065 mid-90s Caterham crossflow in CT. Bidding at $24500 with 3H to run. The VIN tells me it was a CO car originally. http://www.ebay.com/itm/Other-Makes-Super-7-/262642333764?forcerrptr=true&hash=item3d26b3f844:gu8AAOSwMgdX1vZW&item=262642333764 Just to annoy Mr Mustang I will put this ad here. Dark green Superformance S1 at $18300 with 16H to run and some interesting bidding history. It probably should be a higher teens and very low $20s car but this type of stuff just makes you distrust a seller. http://www.ebay.com/itm/Replica-Kit-Makes-SUPER-7-2-Seater-/322267104413?forcerrptr=true&hash=item4b089dc49d:g:NwMAAOSwFe5XyIT~&item=322267104413 Lots of Birkin handbags on Ebay but no cars. eBay USA has this 1990 Westfield with what looks to be an under 25 yo zetec installed for sale in the Netherlands. Maybe a Canada import but a US one would be looking suspect - not sure how you could sign the US EPA importation paperwork.... http://www.ebay.com/itm/Lotus-Super-Seven-/142130250262?forcerrptr=true&hash=item21179f8216:g:Js4AAOSwAuZX6ZWh&item=142130250262 A legit Westfield pre-lit here at $27k http://www.ebay.com/itm/Lotus-Super-7-Series-3-/162199964965?forcerrptr=true&hash=item25c3df0d25:g:-x0AAOSwFV9X1nLT&item=162199964965 Locost in NJ. Ex-UK import now in the US. Bidding at $4908.58 (lets not forget pennies!) http://www.ebay.com/itm/Replica-Kit-Makes-/291890659541?forcerrptr=true&hash=item43f60a00d5:g:C9kAAOSwTA9X6wfK&item=291890659541 Lotus 7 s4 $24k http://www.ebay.com/itm/Lotus-Super-Seven-S4-/282203330919?forcerrptr=true&hash=item41b4a11967:g:c5EAAOSwLF1X8MCZ&item=282203330919 Lotus 7 $23k in CA http://www.usa7s.net/vb/attachment.php?attachmentid=11778&stc=1 http://losangeles.craigslist.org/sfv/cto/5785850637.html Whoever buys this, Steve posted an ad recently for free Rotus literature in the parts for sale section. 2010 Westfield XTR2 $57000 http://www.usa7s.net/vb/attachment.php?attachmentid=11779&stc=1 Its street legal in Washington State! And it was registered in KY at one point! Wow. its not the only one - there is another in TX. I suspect a few have been sold over the years as an alternative to the Radical as a track toy. http://seattle.craigslist.org/sno/cto/5731417880.html Stalker in TX for $16k This looks good and been for sale for a while - why not selling at this price? Its not the SC engine but who cares - it would be plenty fun. http://www.usa7s.net/vb/attachment.php?attachmentid=11780&stc=1 http://easttexas.craigslist.org/cto/5745368291.html 1958 replica Lola - also apparently a Storker. Asking $18k http://www.usa7s.net/vb/attachment.php?attachmentid=11781&stc=1 http://indianapolis.craigslist.org/cto/5766415684.html Locost at $7500 http://baltimore.craigslist.org/cto/5746265009.html 1962 Miller Crosby - looks like a Lotus 11 $175600 http://losangeles.craigslist.org/lac/cto/5747127880.html RM Classic "eight" from South Africa. $10000 Looks quite a nice replica. http://indianapolis.craigslist.org/cto/5778791690.html

Hi Mike - I had heard of the Gator Motorsport as I think they were the guys selling that insane 300hp S1 but I know nothing about them beyond that. I do expect that Stalker is a very well set up car as it would carry the best of everything. Would not mind studying that car in person.

just a small mid week update A Noo Joisey Locost on Fleabay http://www.ebay.com/itm/Replica-Kit-Makes-/291890659541?forcerrptr=true&hash=item43f60a00d5:g:C9kAAOSwTA9X6wfK&item=291890659541

Hi Dave - welcome to the madhouse! :seeya:

Daytona with gold wheels! :willy_nilly: I have gone all tingly in that special spot! :conehead:

Brilliantly said if I may say so. And its true!

1995 Caterham crossflow back again. $23k buy it now. http://www.ebay.com/itm/Other-Makes-caterham-convertible-/182289889065?forcerrptr=true&hash=item2a7152f729:g:Tm4AAOSwFdtXzxaF&item=182289889065 ex-Dennis Brunton Stalker at $37430 buy it now http://www.ebay.com/itm/Replica-Kit-Makes-Brunton-Superstalker-Super-Stalker-/331970845414?forcerrptr=true&hash=item4d4b011ae6:g:GRsAAOSwOVpXYp8V&item=331970845414 2014 Caterham 270 SV at $44700 http://www.ebay.com/itm/Triumph-Other-270-SV-/391555375823?forcerrptr=true&hash=item5b2a84e2cf:g:WsMAAOSwknJX0ewI&item=391555375823 Ultralite at $30k http://www.usa7s.net/vb/attachment.php?attachmentid=11738&stc=1 http://www.ebay.com/itm/Other-Makes-Ultralite-S2K-/351821084642?forcerrptr=true&hash=item51ea2bb7e2:g:I3wAAOSwIgNXwFyB&item=351821084642 The Superformance S1 that Bill found again above. It should go for low to mid $20s with a realistic seller. http://www.ebay.com/itm/Replica-Kit-Makes-SUPER-7-2-Seater-/322267104413?forcerrptr=true&hash=item4b089dc49d:g:NwMAAOSwFe5XyIT~&item=322267104413 yellow pre-lit Westfield $30k http://www.ebay.com/itm/Lotus-Super-7-Series-3-/162199964965?forcerrptr=true&hash=item25c3df0d25:g:-x0AAOSwFV9X1nLT&item=162199964965 Lotus 7 S4 in yellow $24k http://www.ebay.com/itm/Lotus-Super-Seven-S4-/272389624163?forcerrptr=true&hash=item3f6bafd163:g:ihIAAOSwNRdX55ii&item=272389624163 Its not a 7 but...only in FL would this be street legal... http://www.usa7s.net/vb/attachment.php?attachmentid=11739&stc=1 http://www.ebay.com/itm/Replica-Kit-Makes-ASPT-/182286994104?forcerrptr=true&hash=item2a7126cab8:g:gbQAAOSw8gVX4Ek4&item=182286994104 Locost $7k http://baltimore.craigslist.org/cto/5746265009.html 1996 Caterham classic 7 $34900 I would buy the 1995 Caterham in PA up the top of this post and put a few thousand into cosmetics and you are still a long way ahead than buying this dealer one. https://www.hemmings.com/classifieds/dealer/caterham/super-7/1843275.html Fantasy Island has a 1962 Lotus 7 S2 for $42500 https://www.hemmings.com/classifieds/dealer/lotus/7a/1875222.html 1964 Lotus 7 S2 in CT at $43500 I know people who have bought from Automotive Restorations in CT and they were satisfied with the experience. I think this price might need a haggle.... https://www.hemmings.com/classifieds/dealer/lotus/super-seven/1871753.html DSK Lotus 7 clone $32900 https://www.hemmings.com/classifieds/dealer/lotus/super-seven/1864119.html 1959 Lotus 7 S1 - as with all historic car purchases validate the chassis history to value any premium in the price, which this one seems to be missing.....? https://www.hemmings.com/classifieds/cars-for-sale/lotus/7/1861752.html Canada 1963 Lotus 7 S2 asking US$40k https://www.hemmings.com/classifieds/cars-for-sale/lotus/super-seven/1843916.html Stalker V6 at $18500 in TX https://www.hemmings.com/classifieds/cars-for-sale/lotus/7/1832388.html $22k for a seven in CA which is not the car in the photo in the ad? https://www.hemmings.com/classifieds/cars-for-sale/lotus/7/1827972.html 1992 Maxton Roller-skate - sort of sevenesque? $16900 Looks quite cute but then so do I. Do I spy fiberglass spring perches? http://wirewheel.com/gallery/179176/1992_Maxton.jpg http://wirewheel.com/1992-Maxton-Rollerskate-for-sale.html $26500 https://classiccars.com/listings/view/892840/1957-lotus-super-seven-replica-for-sale-in-gladstone-oregon-97027 1969 Lotus 7 Series 4 frame with Series 3 body $32500 https://classiccars.com/listings/view/715384/1969-lotus-seven-for-sale-in-spokane-washington-99208