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Yeah. I can sympathize with Oilteq, my silver Caterham has similar markings over its 3M material. Some crazy in a red Birkin went off at Thunderbolt again and again in front of me a few years back and kicked up a ton of gravel into my nose cone. Despite that, definitely get your car 3M filmed to protect it from stone chips while young. It worked incredibly well on the rear wings and front wings. Not so well on the nose cone but that was because it went through extreme conditions!
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The Regular Summary of Classified Ads of Se7ens Found For Sale
Croc replied to Croc's topic in Cars For Sale
Stalker XL Classic kit mid-project with a Indy style body makeover $28k buy it now http://www.ebay.com/itm/1962-Replica-Kit-Makes-Stalker-Cars-XL-kit-with-one-off-body-Base-/112190479530?forcerrptr=true&hash=item1a1f12dcaa:g:9DkAAOSwx2dYD7tk&item=112190479530 2005 Ultralite $30k buy it now http://www.ebay.com/itm/Other-Makes-Ultralite-S2K-/351872841420?forcerrptr=true&hash=item51ed4176cc:g:x~8AAOSw8gVX-95U&item=351872841420 Champion Motor Corp Locost with 1.8L Miata drivetrain. $11k buy it now http://www.ebay.com/itm/2004-Lotus-Other-/262703793863?forcerrptr=true&hash=item3d2a5dc6c7:g:83YAAOSwLF1X96QJ&item=262703793863 1979 Locost - 2L Alfa engine. $7900 current bid http://www.ebay.com/itm/1979-Lotus-7-Custom-Replica-built-in-2009-ALFA-POWERED-/152299847216?forcerrptr=true&hash=item2375c73e30:g:pvcAAOSwImRYFh6R&item=152299847216 1972 Lotus 7 S4 $23k http://www.ebay.com/itm/1972-Lotus-Super-Seven-/282238087176?forcerrptr=true&hash=item41b6b37008:g:LasAAOSwal5YFbVD&item=282238087176 Its not a seven but it adds lightness to a wallet - 1961 Lotus 23B for $150,000 http://www.usa7s.net/vb/attachment.php?attachmentid=11928&stc=1 http://www.ebay.com/itm/1961-Lotus-Elven-23B-Race-Car-/152300545797?forcerrptr=true&hash=item2375d1e705:g:pbcAAOSwHMJYF2We&item=152300545797 Burgundy Stalker which is listed separately on the for sale forum is on Ebay here asking $35,830 http://www.ebay.com/itm/1962-Replica-Kit-Makes-/332019852843?forcerrptr=true&hash=item4d4dece62b:g:FZ4AAOSw5cNYGIvJ&item=332019852843 Carphoria's 2015 LS1 Brunton Stalker is here http://newyork.craigslist.org/wch/cto/5814007161.html and on Bringatrailer here http://bringatrailer.com/listing/2015-lotus-7-clone-brunton-super-stalker/ 2002 Caterham Super Sprint - 1700 crossflow Bidding at $12750 with 4 days to run http://bringatrailer.com/listing/2002-caterham-super-sprint-1700/ Dont forget to look in Hemmings for more ads -
New to the forum with a new Seven in New Jersey
Croc replied to or7's topic in General Sevens Discussion
Hi Owen - Happy to chat by phone on my 3 Caterham's that have gone through the NJ process but Bill (MrMustang) seems to have a lucky knack of avoiding all the hurdles every time he hits the NJ registration/inspection process so I would use him as your primary starting point. cheers mike -
The Regular Summary of Classified Ads of Se7ens Found For Sale
Croc replied to Croc's topic in Cars For Sale
Thanks guys for contributing the ones above. I will also put them into this post so everything for sale is in one post. Stalker XL Classic kit that is part way turning into something quite extraordinary and I mean that in a good way. I like where this is headed. http://www.usa7s.net/vb/attachment.php?attachmentid=11900&stc=1 $28K buy it now. http://www.ebay.com/itm/1962-Replica-Kit-Makes-Stalker-Cars-XL-kit-with-one-off-body-Base-/112181315332?forcerrptr=true&hash=item1a1e870704:g:9DkAAOSwx2dYD7tk&item=112181315332 Its not a 7 but it is a Lotus 11 replica http://www.ebay.com/itm/1963-Replica-Kit-Makes-Lotus-Eleven-11-/272429770929?forcerrptr=true&hash=item3f6e1468b1:g:hk0AAOSwMVdYE0gL&item=272429770929 2005 WMC Ultralite with trailer for $29,995 http://www.ebay.com/itm/Other-Makes-Ultralite-S2K-/351872841420?forcerrptr=true&hash=item51ed4176cc:g:x~8AAOSw8gVX-95U&item=351872841420 CMC 7 (Locost) This is good value at $11k buy it now. http://www.usa7s.net/vb/attachment.php?attachmentid=11901&stc=1 http://www.ebay.com/itm/Lotus-Other-CMC-Kit-Car-/262692969467?forcerrptr=true&hash=item3d29b89bfb:g:83YAAOSwLF1X96QJ&item=262692969467 1972 Lotus 7 S4 in yellow for $23k http://www.ebay.com/itm/1972-Lotus-Super-Seven-/282238087176?forcerrptr=true&hash=item41b6b37008:g:LasAAOSwal5YFbVD&item=282238087176 As mentioned by Meryl Streep...sorry "TheDingo8MyBaby" above, a pre-lit Westfield. Asking $16500 in CA. Seems like a great starting point for a deal here. https://sfbay.craigslist.org/nby/cto/5830275293.html?lang=es&cc=mx Panamericano kindly posted the Bringatrailer Caterham for auction on this link http://bringatrailer.com/listing/1988-caterham-super-7/ Bidding is at $15k with 4 days to run. Reserve is around $21-22k. How do I know? Because the Craigslist ad is here: https://orangecounty.craigslist.org/cto/5822710035.html Seems a fair price range for what looks like a nicely conditioned car. 1996 Caterham 7 classic in San Antonio for $24500. Looks nice. http://sanantonio.craigslist.org/cto/5820388165.html 2015 LS1 Stalker for $35000 in NY. Refer to ad elsewhere on this forum. http://newyork.craigslist.org/wch/cto/5814007161.html Locost project chassis $2500 http://madison.craigslist.org/cto/5850531515.html 1960s Lotus 7 replica $16500 https://hickory.craigslist.org/cto/5811449204.html also here https://www.hemmings.com/classifieds/cars-for-sale/lotus/7/1884862.html 2001 Birkin for $26500 https://www.hemmings.com/classifieds/cars-for-sale/birkin/s3/1878050.html 1962 Lotus 7 S2 at Fantasy Junction (code for hang on re price) - lovely stuff though https://www.hemmings.com/classifieds/dealer/lotus/7a/1875222.html 1963 Lotus 7 S2 at Automotive Restorations in CT (again code for hang on re price) - I know people who have bought here and enjoyed the experience so that counts for something https://www.hemmings.com/classifieds/dealer/lotus/super-seven/1871753.html DSK Lotus 7 race replica for $32500 https://www.hemmings.com/classifieds/dealer/lotus/super-seven/1864119.html 1959 Lotus 7 S1 at $27900 Seems cheap? May need authentication? https://www.hemmings.com/classifieds/cars-for-sale/lotus/7/1861752.html 1963 Lotus 7 S2 race car in Canada at US$39750 https://www.hemmings.com/classifieds/cars-for-sale/lotus/super-seven/1843916.html Westfield pre-lit back again at $27k https://www.hemmings.com/classifieds/dealer/lotus/super-seven/1763637.html Sevenesque replica at $26500 https://classiccars.com/listings/view/892840/1957-lotus-super-seven-replica-for-sale-in-gladstone-oregon-97027 1969 Lotus 7 S2 at $32500 https://classiccars.com/listings/view/715384/1969-lotus-seven-for-sale-in-spokane-washington-99208 Hoyt Special. Its similar to a Lotus 6/7. Its been for sale for a while now at $50k and I have listed it here occasionally. Listed again for your morning coffee read. Nice looking vintage piece. https://classiccars.com/listings/view/744510/1961-lotus-seven-for-sale-in-san-diego-california-92102 More on this page http://motoringinvestments.com/listings/lotus-seven-like-hoyt-special-1961/ Edited to add one more. The se7ens.net site lists one car this month Sign up for the se7ens.net site to access the contact details. I dont think I should list the persons email or phone without their approval but $17500 is a good price for a Caterham of any year! -
The track was a blast. I loved it. I would very happily go back again. It really is well suited to a seven. Here is a video to give you an idea. Forgive me but I was incompetent. I switched the forward camera to the Sony and it was vibrating at speed because it was not facing square to the front but was instead angled. So it was buffeted by wind and more susceptible to the usual vibrations of these cars to produce the jello effect. The rattle of the mic is from me not securing it properly in its correct location. So I have blocked out the calendar for early October 2017 to go back to Europe with Bookatrack. Who wants to join me? You can rent your own Caterham or go share with someone to split the cost. You get to arrive and drive a fully supported, all costs included Caterham on some of the best tracks in the world and enjoy very social dinners with a group of like-minded individuals. Its my idea of a fun driving vacation. If you need more temptation then maybe read the posts on my earlier trips with Bookatrack to Spa-Francorchamps, Magny-Cours/Dijon, Oulton Park, Donington/Anglesey.
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When you hire a Caterham through Bookatrack on these types of track days 1 hour of professional instruction is included – 30 minutes in the morning and 30 minutes in the afternoon. The instructors are UK based so they were seeing the circuits for the first time along with the customers. What I found most interesting was talking through the circuit and their analysis process and how they modified the recommended lines over the course of the morning. You really got to hear and see how a pro works their way into a new circuit to drive it quick.
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Hungaroring surprised me by being perfect for an R300. You only really ran out of revs about half to two-thirds of the way down the main straight. That said the 620s were running 155-158mph down the straight whereas I topped out at around 117-118mph in the R300. The R500s were doing around 145-147mph. Its a loooong straight
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Hungaroring The last of the circuits we were doing. First constructed in 1986, it is the home of the Hungarian Formula 1 Grand Prix; it has a reputation as a drivers track. It also has a reputation of being tricky in the rain. It is situated in a valley so 80% can be seen from any point, which makes it great for spectators. This is the sequence of turns 2 and 3 and in the background turns 4/5 probably my favorite part of the circuit. Here is the third and second last corners before the main straight. A word here on the cars participating. Nearly all were UK based. Jonny has a couple of tractor-trailer units for the rental cars. He also arranged a few extra trucks to pick up other owner cars (spare wheels and tires) and truck them all to the circuits. So owners could all fly in knowing that their cars would be delivered. He then set up shuttle buses for those not wanting to rent a car so you could be picked up the airport, shuttled to the group hotel and on to the next circuit and so on. A very smooth way of making the entire trip work. The cars were mostly Caterhams. Many R500s, a few 620R, and a couple of R300 (ex-Bookatrack cars now in private ownership). There was a Noble, a Porsche, a track modified Miata, a Lotus Exige, and a Hayabusa Radical. There was even a Lotus Evora whose owner drove it across from the UK to participate.
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The track was hard on cars. Here is Roger, a former Chairman of the Lotus 7 Club of the UK, showing us how to fix a rear end on his absolutely gorgeous Vauxhall powered car. I never realized how nice a Vauxhall engine could sound until I heard this one. Another former Chairman of the Lotus 7 Club (who I will keep nameless to avoid embarrassment) had engine problems which stopped him on the circuit. His K-series R500 had decided to lunch itself at 8600rpm. Scrutiny of the damage in the pits was instructive – it had rods out both sides of the block with clear open holes. Never seen that done double before. In fairness it was said to be well overdue for its refresh schedule of every 3000 track miles or 10000 road miles so the owner was not overly surprised. Here is a video. I decided to use the regular roll bar clamp with the go pro plastic mount. Bad move – I should have known better as they vibrate at speed and get the jello wobbles. Still it should give you the right idea of the track.
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I was caught here waiting in the pits to head out for first session of the day. An illustration of the confusing layout is in this photo. Besides the track I am driving on there are another 3 elements of the track hiding in the background as it loops back on itself again and again.
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Slovakia Ring I will be upfront and admit, I thought this track would be a bust before I even turned a wheel. On paper it did not inspire me. It looked like a classic case of how many corners can you fit into a flat field. Everyone I talked to in the group said the same view and we all changed our minds once we drove it. What an interesting circuit. It was quick. I was at redline in 6th gear at four points in the circuit. But in between those fast bits were some very slow bits. So that led to the surprise on how much fuel a Caterham could consume. The fuel guys were run ragged keeping up. Some photos courtesy of Bookatrack:
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Because of the rain I did not make a full video of the circuit but a series of slow laps in persistent rain that just accumulated around the circuit. The shiny bits of the track in this video are standing water or drainage channels across the track. Yes it really was that wet. I gave the day away after I had a bad aquaplane coming out of turn 1 which I saved and then further down the circuit at turn 11 I aquaplaned again through the braking zone, skated across the gravel trap and somehow managed to haul it up on the grass next to the fence without doing any damage other than tasting seat fabric at the back of my mouth from a big buttock clench. As I am out of the car in the pits after this, I hear of two other Caterhams that had major oops moments from aquaplaning at turn 2. Seemed a perfect time to call it a day. I think I will be back. I want to try the track in the dry. I have seen enough to know it will be a fantastic drive when the conditions are more favorable.
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Sadly it rained in Brno. Towards the end of the day, I was one of the few circulating in the rain and slowly I came up behind another Bookatrack Caterham, a 620R, which was struggling for rear end grip around the corners. Yes it was Jonny from Bookatrack having fun by escaping his customers. So Jonny nicely pointed me by in my R300 and I continued on my merry way trying to be as smooth as possible, using only 5th or 6th gears to avoid breaking traction. Sadly, 3 laps later, I loop it coming out of the steep uphill right hander just before pit straight. Jonny sails past, probably with a huge smirk on his face, and gives me the thumbs up.
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My trusty R300 for my days on track is here. A standard S3 chassis with de Dion rear end. 2L Duratec making 180hp. Redline is 6800-7000 but I usually change at 6500 for sympathy. No frills race car – no lights, indicators, extra gauges, or heater/blower unit. It is usually set up with fiberglass Tillet shells, although I use a foam seat arrangement when I run this car. Its nice to see Bookatrack gave her a shiny new coat of black paint and orange stripes since I last used it. A bit about Bookatrack. I have been running with Bookatrack for 5 years now at various UK and European circuits, always running Caterham R300s. Jonny Leroux, with his wife Sarah, run the best track days of any operator I have run with. Handy with the wheel himself, I think he still holds the lap record at Spa-Francorchamps in a Caterham R300 – the video is on YouTube somewhere. But Jonny’s best skill is building a group of loyal repeat customers who are just all welcoming and friendly to anyone that joins one of his track days or annual Europe trip like this one. The laughs are frequent around these days – no egos. I have tried a bunch of UK/European track day operators over the years – Bookatrack are the only ones I will run with now. Even if you never run a Bookatrack track day, Jonny is a passionate Caterham supporter and in the last year opened Caterham Midlands, based at Donington Circuit in the UK - worth a look if you are in the Midlands of the UK. The format of the track day is open pit lane. The track breaks for lunch for an hour but you can guarantee 7 hours of open track time. I would average about 3 hours on track in a day with lengthy breaks in between to keep the car and myself fresh. You do not lack for quality track time. Someone told me there were 30 cars but apart from the first 30 minutes there was never anything close to this out on track at once. You really did have quality time on the circuit. So some photos courtesy of Bookatrack. One feature of a Bookatrack track day is their practice of 2-3 sighting laps for people new to the circuit to get a basic familiarity before you go out and plant the size 11s to the floor. So I took out my Avis RentaCar, who for once gave me an upgrade to a nice Mercedes…. low powered diesel…sigh… Some pit photos
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But, the story of Brno circuit is all about elevation change. It may be hard to read the following graph but there is close to 250 feet (75m) of elevation change in the track from top to bottom. You start up high, wind your way down to the lowest point and then it is a very steep climb back up to the start finish line. This photo illustrates the elevation. This is me about half way down the circuit and in the distance, lower, continues the circuit and it is not even the end of the elevation drop. Yes I know I missed the apex Tom (as some of my "friends" on here will be quick to point out!) - with so much water on the apex you had more grip hold the car well out from the apex. The trusty rental Caterhams all lined up. The R300 have orange stripes and the 620R are red stripe. I did enjoy how the Bookatrack photographer lined up the cars at opposite angle to pit exit!
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As I have done for a number of years now, I rented one of the Bookatrack Caterham R300 racecars for their European tour, this year Eastern Europe. The plan in the week of October 10 was to fly into Budapest, spend 2 days enjoying the town then pick up a rental car and drive to Brno in the Czech Republic to meet the group at the hotel. First circuit was Brno. We travel then to Slovakia Ring, which is roughly 35 miles east of Bratislava in Slovakia. After that it is drive back to Budapest where we run the Hungaroring, home of the Hungarian Formula 1 Grand Prix. For those that have never been to Budapest, you are missing one of the great cities of Europe. Lots to see and do and very reasonably priced. Naturally I sampled the local brews in my favorite cafe by the Danube watching the world go by! Brno Circuit, Czech Republic There was a famed Brno Circuit. But like the other great tracks of Europe – Spa-Francorchamps, Le Mans, Pau, even Nürburgring, it has changed dramatically over time. The original 19 mile circuit was discontinued and a move was made to purpose built facility nestled in the hillside and valleys on the outskirts of Brno city in 1987. I drove some of the original 1930s track, as it is now the access roads to the current circuit. Even some of the original pit buildings remain present on the sides of the road. The track is known for hosting MotoGP bikes, Formula 3 Euro Series, DTM, FIA World Touring Car, Superbike World Championship, and FIA GT1 World Championship. Sadly the weather forecast was not encouraging. The day was cold, high 30sF, overcast with rain forecast late in the day. In Fall with the leaves changing color it is a magnificent setting The track map shows a fairly lengthy track nothing special in layout.
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Hi Yeti - because Wemtd's post seems to have disappeared, he was asking what year/model of Birkin as it will make a difference in cost/time/difficulty getting a replacement. He has a nice paper mache nose cone that he used temporarily while he waited a year or two until Birkin supplied new one to replace his broken one. He still worked with Tom Carlin to get one. Hi Paul (Wemtd) - thanks for the PM on the disappearing post but I could not respond to you as your mailbox is full and I can no longer send messages to you.
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Give Tom Carlin of Birkin USA a call. Very easy to deal with.
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Welcome to the forum Chris! :seeya: Sensible idea but let me structure a list for searching otherwise you will need a second bottle...not that there is anything wrong with that... Original Lotus 7 Original/Original Looking Replicas/Traditional Caterham (continued the UK Lotus 7 lineage after it passed out of Lotus hands) Birkin (similar story to Caterham but did it via South Africa) Some Locost sevens Modified Traditional Look Westfield Modern Seven Look Brunton Stalker WMC Ultralite (Not sure these are still available new but worth looking at to decide your preference) Some of the above have narrow or wide chassis options (SV, XS, XL, etc) depending on your belt size or use (e.g. track versus road touring versus canyon carver) Once you decide the look then you need to decide drivetrain. Each of these some options for engines and transmissions ranging from 4 cylinders all the way to V8s. After that it becomes all about the various options that personalize the car to you. You're in the US so try to stick with the US sellers to avoid the whole importation hassles unless you decide desperately that you need a Hayabusa powered Caterham which only Super 7 cars seems to have in kit form (forget about importing a whole new car to the US unless you want to Federalize it...not a good idea). All of the above are accomplished cars at what they do but they all require a level of patience/fiddling/fettling to bring them to your idea of a perfect Seven. Urk! Paul - I would not have done that to Chris. He may be scared away(or just scarred) by that series of posts that were the result of more than a bottle of wine by someone unknown...:leaving:
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Is this a high end car or something lower end that ro-ro would work for? Do you need your own container or are you happy with share? I assume these are all over 25 year old road cars? They are the cheapest for importation/shipping costs. With Hanjin sinking the container freight rates are a little unsettled right now. I would get some updated quotes if I were you. I will only use Cosdel now after previously using a bunch. Process is managed smoothly albeit somewhat abrupt in the communications at times. No share containers with multiple cars - dedicated container for your car. They do all the US to UK and UK to US for events like Goodwood, Monterey, etc., so they know how to treat high end cars. They took care of my last 3 cars being shipped internationally. The Batmobile arrived without any damage and that fiberglass fairing is fragile and easily damaged. I can talk offline on costs for my cars.
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And that folks is how you sell a car: - glossy colorful large photos - lots and lots of photos - great color scheme on the car - good description Damn that looks tempting! Good luck with the sale Carphoria!
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If it were that historic I would expect it to come up on the L7C UK site as been featured somewhere in LowFlying or other Blatchat inquiry. I only found reference that the former owner was an L7C member. There is an archivist facility at Caterham for inquiries like this. Records are sparse but they should have worked out their first car. I dont think it was their first car as I thought they took over S4 production and then after the parts quickly ran out they reverted to the S3 body. I dont have access to my reference books on this but going from memory maybe they are trying to infer it is the first true Caterham in the traditional body style? The H&H auction in 2014 that sold this car has none of the claims this more recent ad does. Just says it was an early Caterham. And that is probably the right answer. Still it does look nice.
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Oy! Who let John out of his box! :rofl:
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My personal view is SV stands for "Svelte"
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Hi Blake Welcome to the forum! While I am in NYC sadly my cars are not thanks to a Hudson River flood prone garage. Your best bets for trying a car on for size within an hour of you: Blackhole - just bought a new (to him) SV in CT Boxologist - has an SV on Long Island - rarely comes on here and is hard to get a hold of. JVbtte - has a S3 in northern NJ. Rarely comes on here and is hard to get a hold of. There are others in CT in MA but I am not as familiar with them. Your better bet for trying a car out would be weekend of November 12/13 when the Drivers Club group are at NJMP. There would be a few S3s, S5s and a CSR to try on for size assuming the weather behaves and chat with the various owners about options to spec (or not). We could also show you what the cars are like at speed in that setting as a few of us are accredited instructors. But that is more like a 3 hour drive which may be too far for you.
