Croc Posted January 6, 2020 Share Posted January 6, 2020 Its not the easiest thing to do! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fatallightning Posted January 6, 2020 Share Posted January 6, 2020 I can't recall if I saw Miata guys wearing arm restraints last year at NJMP. It was a TNIA which is usually a bit more lax, but I don't think safety items are really at the promoters discretion. My tech was giving me a little grief about my head poking a tiny tiny bit through the Elise, even though targa/T-top cars don't have to meet the broomstick test according to a strict reading. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
panamericano Posted January 6, 2020 Share Posted January 6, 2020 Its not the easiest thing to do! Large head, short arms, big a__. Croc? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
xcarguy Posted January 6, 2020 Share Posted January 6, 2020 Large head, short arms, big a__. Croc? No, no, no...crocs crawl on their bellies. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Brightonuk Posted January 7, 2020 Share Posted January 7, 2020 Look up track night america for meets in your area They meet once a month in various locations and if you are an SCCA member it is around $165 and they dont require certification for seat belts Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fatallightning Posted January 7, 2020 Share Posted January 7, 2020 Look up track night america for meets in your area They meet once a month in various locations and if you are an SCCA member it is around $165 and they dont require certification for seat belts Track night in America at njmp checked my (expired) harnesses for date and wouldn't let me run them in my Elise. I had to wear the stock 3 point. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BlueBDA Posted June 24, 2020 Share Posted June 24, 2020 Reviving this thread to get help with my current belt dilemma. My Racequip 6-points expired (2019 dating). So I know that I need new belts before I could do a track day at NJMP or probably other places. The Racequip that I have can be used as 4-point or 6-point, as the buckle is on one of the lap belts. According to Pegasus Racing, FIA now mandates that the buckle be on the crotch belts. So FIA 6-point belts can no longer be used as 4-point. I really don't want to go to all of the trouble and expense of replacing with SFI belts and have only 2-year dating. Advice? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Anker Posted June 24, 2020 Share Posted June 24, 2020 I would also be surprised if they don't require a HANS device with any harness. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Croc Posted June 24, 2020 Share Posted June 24, 2020 Sounds like there is no option but to get 6 pointers with buckle latch on the crotch belt If you want a 5 year FIA life. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Croc Posted June 24, 2020 Share Posted June 24, 2020 HANS is not mandatory at NJMP. 6 point belts plus arm restraints but no HANS. Matter of time I suspect. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KnifeySpoony Posted June 25, 2020 Share Posted June 25, 2020 I wouldn't run a 6 point without a HANS. Better to run 4 point ASM. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BlueBDA Posted June 25, 2020 Share Posted June 25, 2020 I wouldn't run a 6 point without a HANS. Better to run 4 point ASM. Why is that? Also I believe NJMP doesn't allow 4-point in an open car, right Croc? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KnifeySpoony Posted June 25, 2020 Share Posted June 25, 2020 Why is that? Also I believe NJMP doesn't allow 4-point in an open car, right Croc? 6 point without HANS increases risk of a cervical spine injury in a big impact. There's a reason why they're required in most racing orgs. Generally 4 point ASM harnesses considered equivalent to a 3 point belt (because in a crash they act like one), so any event where a 3 point is allowed, the 4 point ASM should be allowed. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Croc Posted June 25, 2020 Share Posted June 25, 2020 Also I believe NJMP doesn't allow 4-point in an open car, right Croc? Correct. NJMP requires open cars to have 5 or 6 point belts, roll bar and arm restraints. No mention of HANS 4 points not permitted at NJMP Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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