Croc Posted September 21, 2020 Author Share Posted September 21, 2020 Hi Jeff Send me a PM and we can swap phone numbers. If our site admin security is preventing you from sending a PM then send a message via the USA7s event email sevensarefun AT gmail DOT usual Cheers mike Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ahavams Posted September 21, 2020 Share Posted September 21, 2020 Hi Jeff Send me a PM and we can swap phone numbers. If our site admin security is preventing you from sending a PM then send a message via the USA7s event email sevensarefun AT gmail DOT usual Cheers mike Mike, pm sent, hopefully goes through now. Thanks! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Croc Posted September 21, 2020 Author Share Posted September 21, 2020 Jeff - response sent. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
scannon Posted September 21, 2020 Share Posted September 21, 2020 Mike, Thanks for the info on the CSR. Skip Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kitcat Posted September 21, 2020 Share Posted September 21, 2020 The CSR 260 is a whole lotta Caterham for that price. Which makes me wonder, like Croc. Seller says it handles so well you "literally" dont have to brake for turns:)! Right, it must have some new advanced F1 technology. Or the seller is clueless.... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Vovchandr Posted September 21, 2020 Share Posted September 21, 2020 Hi Skip, "Work" should be read in the context of home work/inspection/possibly some mechanical. My observations: a) Google the phone number to understand what this company normally sells and read some of their other car sale ads to get a flavor. The seller is not an uniformed seller for it to be that cheap. Its cheap for a reason. Regular value would be $40-45K, possibly more if pristine. New chassis kits are $50K. Drive train is probably a $25k package these days. Struck me as strange that the VIN and license plate were obscured in an ad where you are required to disclose in order to make a sale? Carfax time. b) Looks like it had a hit on passenger rear wing - its discolored. When it did hit, what was replaced? This is IRS and not as robust as the de dion. Really need to remove the wheel and have a close look. The hub is a billet aluminum component - not cheap to replace. Given a), you may not be able to find out. c) This is a 2007 model so only 2 diff mount points. While you can add the 2 extra braces - fairly easy - given the track history you probably still have metal fatigue on the diff casing to address. The old style 2 point mounting failed regularly with track use unless it was upgraded - looking in the boot area would tell me if it was as the extra mounts are visible. d) Engine - these Cosworth engines have a dry sump tower dipstick for oil levels but it does not really work as it should. You only know it is at the correct oil level when it just stops blowing oil into the catch tank - the engine knows to find its right level. Most people replaced the original plastic catch tank as the oil just misted everywhere if you followed the correct Caterham/Cosworth operating procedure to get to the right oil level. That oil catch tank is dry and no residue inside and no oil mist mess outside - so oil level could be too low and its been tracked. Oil cap is a strange one? This is the most expensive risk factor in this car. But it is a Cosworth and it is a sensational engine. e) Clutch looks replumbed but not sure why? f) Air box and exhaust mods look like they were designed to get under 92db so ok. g) Mileage advertized at 500 miles but the photos tell me its much older None of this is a deal killer at the low price but potential buyers should inspect knowing what to look for. If anyone here is serious to buying it, I would be happy to talk through things to look for on this model CSR since this is the first time I can remember this specific curvy dash chassis version has come up on here since 2010. I doubt the seller is that informed to answer specific questions though. In person inspection probably wise but there would be USA7s folks in San Diego (Sabbot is there). Hi Vlad - CSRs were S5 sized, i.e. identical to an SV. There were 2 S3s built using the IRS off the CSR - one of these was developmental and one was a factory engineer building one for fun for himself. Both are in the UK. One came up for sale a few years back. The reason they did not make an S3 was not packaging, although it does destroy what little boot space you have, it was more cost issues that stopped it going forward plus an understanding of the likely market to be targetted for sales (i.e. touring). This CSR for sale is SV sized. Cheers mike Seller also has "salvage" as a tag in the bottom Could be insignificant or could be relevant especially with your comments on what appears to be damage Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
linenoise Posted September 21, 2020 Share Posted September 21, 2020 I called to ask questions about the CSR and was informed that the car has sold. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fastg Posted September 22, 2020 Share Posted September 22, 2020 Auction Branson MO. October 16/17 https://bransonauction.com/auction-consignments/lotus/super-7/1962-lotus-super-7-2/ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Angelo Posted September 25, 2020 Share Posted September 25, 2020 Thank you. Great information for someone, me, getting back into Caterhams. I’m looking. And definitely ready when I find the right car for me. Thanks again Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Angelo Posted September 25, 2020 Share Posted September 25, 2020 Hello Bill, I have seen that car. I owned a Caterham, not a Birkin, and for whatever reason would like to stick with a Caterham. I know absolutely nothing about Birkins. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Angelo Posted September 25, 2020 Share Posted September 25, 2020 Mike, live gotten comfortable using BaT past sales data. The sales prices I see and what you suggest as ranges all seem reasonable. Now to find my car. On a mission. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mrmustang Posted September 25, 2020 Share Posted September 25, 2020 Hello Bill, I have seen that car. I owned a Caterham, not a Birkin, and for whatever reason would like to stick with a Caterham. I know absolutely nothing about Birkins. No problem, if for some reason it's available when my deal comes to fruition, I do plan to attempt to repurchase. Good luck with your hunt, sometimes that is half the fun. Bill Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Angelo Posted September 26, 2020 Share Posted September 26, 2020 No problem, if for some reason it's available when my deal comes to fruition, I do plan to attempt to repurchase. Good luck with your hunt, sometimes that is half the fun. Bill i agree. The hunt is half the fun. I’ve made two offers. And I’m in no way trying to steal a car. One was a car with many more engine mods than I want or need. And as far away as geographically possible. So I had to factor in transportation The other car was over priced to start with. I made what I feel was an above market offer. But that seller really doesn’t want to sell. Hard to buy anything from a person that doesn’t want to sell. I don’t fault that seller at all. Neither car is exactly what I would like. And having owned a Caterham in the past I know what I want. So the hunt continues. I’m on a mission. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Croc Posted September 27, 2020 Author Share Posted September 27, 2020 (edited) Good luck with the hunt Angelo. When you get your car, we want to see photos! This week's findings: NEW Birkin https://www.ebay.com/itm/1990-Birkin-S3-Seven-Sprint-S3-Seven-Sprint/114423582044?hash=item1aa42d4d5c:g:0tAAAOSwoYZfaB3F and here https://phoenix.craigslist.org/evl/ctd/d/mesa-1990-birkin-s3-seven-sprint-lotus/7201154734.html Replica https://www.ebay.com/itm/2018-Replica-Kit-Makes-Lotus-Super-7-Replica/293748516376?hash=item4464c6a618:g:s7sAAOSwG-dfah30 REPEATS Caterham https://classiccars.com/listings/view/1363082/2004-caterham-seven-for-sale-in-newport-beach-california-92660 Replica https://classiccars.com/listings/view/1382221/1979-lotus-seven-for-sale-in-arvada-colorado-80005 Wharton 7 https://classiccars.com/listings/view/1299993/1978-lotus-seven-for-sale-in-cadillac-michigan-49601 Lotus 7 S2 https://www.hemmings.com/classifieds/dealer/lotus/super-seven/2409828.html and here http://www.motorcarcompany.com/1963-lotus-seven-s2-1500-cosworth-2dr-roadster-for-sale-at-motor-car-company-in-california.html Lotus 7 S2 https://thesmiekelcollection.com/1967-lotus-super-seven/ Caterham http://rockymountaincaterham.com/inventory/ Caterham http://www.beachmanracing.com/inventory Mitsuoka Zero https://www.duncanimports.com/vehicles/547/1994-mitsuoka-zero1-roadster Caterham http://britauto.com/portfolio-view/201216-nos-caterham-sv-roadsport/ Caterham http://britauto.com/portfolio-view/2000-caterham/ Stalker http://www.race-cars.com/carsales/lotus/1437589044/1437589044ss.htm Lotus 7 S2 https://vintageracecarsales.com/portfolio-view/lotus-7-america-vintage-race-car/ Caterham https://www.hemmings.com/classifieds/dealer/lotus/caterham/2416012.html Lotus 7A https://www.hemmings.com/classifieds/cars-for-sale/lotus/7a/2388210.html Stalker https://www.ebay.com/itm/1965-Replica-Kit-Makes-Brunton-Stalker/303681147378?hash=item46b4ce91f2:g:FwsAAOSw4dxeD8lq Birkin https://fortcollins.craigslist.org/cto/d/fort-collins-birkin-s3-super-7-lotus-7/7202500290.html Diva 7 https://phoenix.craigslist.org/nph/cto/d/prescott-diva-roadster-1962-lotus/7197841655.html Westfield https://miami.craigslist.org/brw/cto/d/pompano-beach-1992-westfield-sei-lotus-7/7199135243.html Stalker https://indianapolis.craigslist.org/cto/d/carmel-1962-lotus-super-7/7195367678.html Westfield https://prescott.craigslist.org/cto/d/chino-valley-1991-lotus-super-seven/7190847471.html CANADA Fejer 7 https://www.kijiji.ca/v-classic-cars/city-of-toronto/1983-fejer-lotus-seven/1525399401 MCC 7 project https://www.kijiji.ca/v-cars-trucks/mississauga-peel-region/mcc-super-7-unfinished-car-detailed-version-relocated/1503983466 Edited September 27, 2020 by Croc Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Angelo Posted September 27, 2020 Share Posted September 27, 2020 I have actually seen all those true Caterhams. Made an offer on one of them. The engine on that car has been highly modified for more HP. And it has a 6 speed. Prefer the 5 speed. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
linenoise Posted September 28, 2020 Share Posted September 28, 2020 Croc: This one: https://classiccars.com/listings/view/1363082/2004-caterham-seven-for-sale-in-newport-beach-california-92660 sold on Ebay a while back. I guess the owner never took down the other ad. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Croc Posted September 28, 2020 Author Share Posted September 28, 2020 Thanks for the heads up on the sale Linenoise Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jbanker Posted September 29, 2020 Share Posted September 29, 2020 I noticed in the repeats that the Craigs List Indianapolis Stalker V6 has updated photos and a price drop. I know the car well. It is an exceptional build. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fastg Posted October 1, 2020 Share Posted October 1, 2020 https://www.ebay.com/itm/293748516376?ul_noapp=true sold for $13,200 great deal. One new one https://www.ebay.com/i/363123691708?_trksid=p11010.c100776.m4872&_trkparms=aid%3D1110006%26algo%3DHOMESPLICE.SIM%26ao%3D1%26asc%3D20170316120926%26meid%3D48d809eeb9e34c068473b000ef68e395%26pid%3D100776%26rk%3D1%26rkt%3D14%26mehot%3Dnone%26b%3D1%26sd%3D293748516376%26itm%3D363123691708%26pmt%3D0%26noa%3D1%26pg%3D11010%26algv%3DDefaultOrganic&ul_noapp=true Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Vovchandr Posted October 2, 2020 Share Posted October 2, 2020 Something different Lots going on here https://bringatrailer.com/listing/1985-caterham-7/ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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