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Hi Jeff

 

Send me a PM and we can swap phone numbers. If our site admin security is preventing you from sending a PM then send a message via the USA7s event email sevensarefun AT gmail DOT usual

 

Cheers

mike

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Hi Jeff

 

Send me a PM and we can swap phone numbers. If our site admin security is preventing you from sending a PM then send a message via the USA7s event email sevensarefun AT gmail DOT usual

 

Cheers

mike

 

Mike,

 

pm sent, hopefully goes through now. Thanks!

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The CSR 260 is a whole lotta Caterham for that price. Which makes me wonder, like Croc. Seller says it handles so well you "literally" dont have to brake for turns:)! Right, it must have some new advanced F1 technology. Or the seller is clueless....

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Hi Skip,

 

"Work" should be read in the context of home work/inspection/possibly some mechanical.

 

My observations:

a) Google the phone number to understand what this company normally sells and read some of their other car sale ads to get a flavor. The seller is not an uniformed seller for it to be that cheap. Its cheap for a reason. Regular value would be $40-45K, possibly more if pristine. New chassis kits are $50K. Drive train is probably a $25k package these days. Struck me as strange that the VIN and license plate were obscured in an ad where you are required to disclose in order to make a sale? Carfax time.

b) Looks like it had a hit on passenger rear wing - its discolored. When it did hit, what was replaced? This is IRS and not as robust as the de dion. Really need to remove the wheel and have a close look. The hub is a billet aluminum component - not cheap to replace. Given a), you may not be able to find out.

c) This is a 2007 model so only 2 diff mount points. While you can add the 2 extra braces - fairly easy - given the track history you probably still have metal fatigue on the diff casing to address. The old style 2 point mounting failed regularly with track use unless it was upgraded - looking in the boot area would tell me if it was as the extra mounts are visible.

d) Engine - these Cosworth engines have a dry sump tower dipstick for oil levels but it does not really work as it should. You only know it is at the correct oil level when it just stops blowing oil into the catch tank - the engine knows to find its right level. Most people replaced the original plastic catch tank as the oil just misted everywhere if you followed the correct Caterham/Cosworth operating procedure to get to the right oil level. That oil catch tank is dry and no residue inside and no oil mist mess outside - so oil level could be too low and its been tracked. Oil cap is a strange one? This is the most expensive risk factor in this car. But it is a Cosworth and it is a sensational engine.

e) Clutch looks replumbed but not sure why?

f) Air box and exhaust mods look like they were designed to get under 92db so ok.

g) Mileage advertized at 500 miles but the photos tell me its much older

 

 

None of this is a deal killer at the low price but potential buyers should inspect knowing what to look for.

 

If anyone here is serious to buying it, I would be happy to talk through things to look for on this model CSR since this is the first time I can remember this specific curvy dash chassis version has come up on here since 2010. I doubt the seller is that informed to answer specific questions though. In person inspection probably wise but there would be USA7s folks in San Diego (Sabbot is there).

 

 

Hi Vlad - CSRs were S5 sized, i.e. identical to an SV. There were 2 S3s built using the IRS off the CSR - one of these was developmental and one was a factory engineer building one for fun for himself. Both are in the UK. One came up for sale a few years back. The reason they did not make an S3 was not packaging, although it does destroy what little boot space you have, it was more cost issues that stopped it going forward plus an understanding of the likely market to be targetted for sales (i.e. touring). This CSR for sale is SV sized.

 

Cheers

mike

 

Seller also has "salvage" as a tag in the bottom

 

Could be insignificant or could be relevant especially with your comments on what appears to be damage

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Hello Bill,

 

I have seen that car. I owned a Caterham, not a Birkin, and for whatever reason would like to stick with a Caterham. I know absolutely nothing about Birkins.

 

No problem, if for some reason it's available when my deal comes to fruition, I do plan to attempt to repurchase. Good luck with your hunt, sometimes that is half the fun.

 

Bill

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No problem, if for some reason it's available when my deal comes to fruition, I do plan to attempt to repurchase. Good luck with your hunt, sometimes that is half the fun.

 

Bill

i agree. The hunt is half the fun.

I’ve made two offers. And I’m in no way trying to steal a car.

One was a car with many more engine mods than I want or need. And as far away as geographically possible. So I had to factor in transportation

The other car was over priced to start with. I made what I feel was an above market offer. But that seller really doesn’t want to sell. Hard to buy anything from a person that doesn’t want to sell. I don’t fault that seller at all.

Neither car is exactly what I would like. And having owned a Caterham in the past I know what I want.

So the hunt continues. I’m on a mission.

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Good luck with the hunt Angelo. When you get your car, we want to see photos!

 

 

This week's findings:

 

 

NEW

 

Birkin

https://www.ebay.com/itm/1990-Birkin-S3-Seven-Sprint-S3-Seven-Sprint/114423582044?hash=item1aa42d4d5c:g:0tAAAOSwoYZfaB3F

and here

https://phoenix.craigslist.org/evl/ctd/d/mesa-1990-birkin-s3-seven-sprint-lotus/7201154734.html

 

 

Replica

https://www.ebay.com/itm/2018-Replica-Kit-Makes-Lotus-Super-7-Replica/293748516376?hash=item4464c6a618:g:s7sAAOSwG-dfah30

 

 

 

 

REPEATS

 

Caterham

https://classiccars.com/listings/view/1363082/2004-caterham-seven-for-sale-in-newport-beach-california-92660

 

 

Replica

https://classiccars.com/listings/view/1382221/1979-lotus-seven-for-sale-in-arvada-colorado-80005

 

 

Wharton 7

https://classiccars.com/listings/view/1299993/1978-lotus-seven-for-sale-in-cadillac-michigan-49601

 

 

Lotus 7 S2

https://www.hemmings.com/classifieds/dealer/lotus/super-seven/2409828.html

and here

http://www.motorcarcompany.com/1963-lotus-seven-s2-1500-cosworth-2dr-roadster-for-sale-at-motor-car-company-in-california.html

 

 

Lotus 7 S2

https://thesmiekelcollection.com/1967-lotus-super-seven/

 

 

Caterham

http://rockymountaincaterham.com/inventory/

 

 

Caterham

http://www.beachmanracing.com/inventory

 

 

Mitsuoka Zero

https://www.duncanimports.com/vehicles/547/1994-mitsuoka-zero1-roadster

 

 

Caterham

http://britauto.com/portfolio-view/201216-nos-caterham-sv-roadsport/

 

 

Caterham

http://britauto.com/portfolio-view/2000-caterham/

 

 

Stalker

http://www.race-cars.com/carsales/lotus/1437589044/1437589044ss.htm

 

 

Lotus 7 S2

https://vintageracecarsales.com/portfolio-view/lotus-7-america-vintage-race-car/

 

 

Caterham

https://www.hemmings.com/classifieds/dealer/lotus/caterham/2416012.html

 

 

Lotus 7A

https://www.hemmings.com/classifieds/cars-for-sale/lotus/7a/2388210.html

 

 

Stalker

https://www.ebay.com/itm/1965-Replica-Kit-Makes-Brunton-Stalker/303681147378?hash=item46b4ce91f2:g:FwsAAOSw4dxeD8lq

 

 

Birkin

https://fortcollins.craigslist.org/cto/d/fort-collins-birkin-s3-super-7-lotus-7/7202500290.html

 

 

Diva 7

https://phoenix.craigslist.org/nph/cto/d/prescott-diva-roadster-1962-lotus/7197841655.html

 

 

Westfield

https://miami.craigslist.org/brw/cto/d/pompano-beach-1992-westfield-sei-lotus-7/7199135243.html

 

 

Stalker

https://indianapolis.craigslist.org/cto/d/carmel-1962-lotus-super-7/7195367678.html

 

 

Westfield

https://prescott.craigslist.org/cto/d/chino-valley-1991-lotus-super-seven/7190847471.html

 

 

 

CANADA

 

Fejer 7

https://www.kijiji.ca/v-classic-cars/city-of-toronto/1983-fejer-lotus-seven/1525399401

 

 

MCC 7 project

https://www.kijiji.ca/v-cars-trucks/mississauga-peel-region/mcc-super-7-unfinished-car-detailed-version-relocated/1503983466

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I noticed in the repeats that the Craigs List Indianapolis Stalker V6 has updated photos and a price drop. I know the car well. It is an exceptional build.

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