The Regular Summary of Classified Ads of Se7ens Found For Sale

So sorry you didn't get a chance to really enjoy your Caterham. Hope it all works out for you and there is another one in your future.

Do you know what that yellow apparatus is/does that is sitting behind your car?

Thanks. I was going to try hold onto it, but it’s just not practical with the divorce. Not ideal, but there you go. Life rarely is I guess.

Inokinetic’s shop space is next to someone who deals in equipment. If the Caterham was parked close to other cars it would’ve been impossible to take photos, so we put it there so I could get the whole car into the shot. Im not sure what all the equipment does, but can ask next time I see them!

Anaximander · September 6, 2020

Senna, Those large yellow "torpedo" looking devices with the circular hydraulic rubber collars are large inside diameter pipe bending mandrels with the size of pipe they are used for labeled on the mandrel. The larger blue machines are the actual outside diameter hydraulic pipe bending machines. The Vietz company is in Hanover, Germany. Nice looking car. Looks like your choice of repair shops was pretty spot on given the sophisticated aftermarket parts they sell and install.

S1Steve, I had not seen your post. It must be very cool to see uber large pipes being worked on. I am sure that the welders who put them together are exceptionally skilled as well. I have heard that they x-ray the welds to check for integrity.

Edited September 6, 2020 by Astro Bob

11Budlite · September 11, 2020

Caterham
https://bringatrailer.com/listing/1998-caterham-super-seven-3/

Sold for $30,250. Seems like really strong money for a crossflow, 4-sp, live axle car. Nice color combo and it looks really nice though.

fastg · September 11, 2020

Great looking car, very good pictures and very well detailed, scrupulously clean. The effort got the owner a great price.

Graham

Croc · September 13, 2020

Hope all those in Oregon and California and nearby, affected by the wildfires, are staying safe and well.

NEW

None

REPEATS

Caterham

http://britauto.com/portfolio-view/201216-nos-caterham-sv-roadsport/

Caterham

http://britauto.com/portfolio-view/2000-caterham/

Mitsuoka Zero

https://www.duncanimports.com/vehicles/547/1994-mitsuoka-zero1-roadster

Lotus 7 S2

https://www.fantasyjunction.com/inventory/1964-lotus-super-7-series-2/overview

Lotus 7 S2

https://thesmiekelcollection.com/1967-lotus-super-seven/

Lotus 7 S2

http://www.motorcarcompany.com/1963-lotus-seven-s2-1500-cosworth-2dr-roadster-for-sale-at-motor-car-company-in-california.html

and here

https://www.hemmings.com/classifieds/dealer/lotus/super-seven/2409828.html

Stalker

http://www.race-cars.com/carsales/lotus/1437589044/1437589044ss.htm

Caterham

https://www.hemmings.com/classifieds/dealer/lotus/caterham/2416012.html

Caterham

http://rockymountaincaterham.com/inventory/

Caterham

http://www.beachmanracing.com/inventory

Lotus 7A

https://www.hemmings.com/classifieds/cars-for-sale/lotus/7a/2388210.html

Lotus 7 S2

https://vintageracecarsales.com/portfolio-view/lotus-7-america-vintage-race-car/

Caterham

https://classiccars.com/listings/view/1363082/2004-caterham-seven-for-sale-in-newport-beach-california-92660

Replica

https://classiccars.com/listings/view/1382221/1979-lotus-seven-for-sale-in-arvada-colorado-80005

Wharton 7

https://classiccars.com/listings/view/1299993/1978-lotus-seven-for-sale-in-cadillac-michigan-49601

Caterham

https://www.ebay.com/itm/1973-Replica-Kit-Makes-Caterham-7/164370996566?hash=item2645465d56:g:JN0AAOSw69dfVCiv

Westfield

https://www.ebay.com/itm/1984-Westfield-7/254714970452?hash=item3b4e320154:g:dMoAAOSwKDVfA58n

Stalker

https://www.ebay.com/itm/1965-Replica-Kit-Makes-Brunton-Stalker/303681147378?hash=item46b4ce91f2:g:FwsAAOSw4dxeD8lq

Stalker

https://www.ebay.com/itm/1970-Replica-Kit-Makes-Brunton-Stalker-XL/363083382662?hash=item548974bf86:g:1~oAAOSwwUlfQLxk

Birkin

https://fortcollins.craigslist.org/cto/d/fort-collins-birkin-s3-super-7-lotus-7/7184320233.html

Birkin kit

https://newlondon.craigslist.org/cto/d/groton-birkin-super-7/7180847555.html

Westfield

https://prescott.craigslist.org/cto/d/chino-valley-1991-lotus-super-seven/7190847471.html

Diva 7

https://prescott.craigslist.org/cto/d/prescott-1962-lotus-roadster/7189493207.html

CANADA

MCC 7 project

https://www.kijiji.ca/v-classic-cars/mississauga-peel-region/mcc-7/1432118799

Replica

https://www.kijiji.ca/v-cars-other/owen-sound/lotus-7-clone-kit-sold/1517701608

Westfield

https://www.kijiji.ca/v-autos-camions/laval-rive-nord/westfield-replique-lotus-7/1514071520

Edited September 13, 2020 by Croc

Croc · September 18, 2020

Caterham rotary on Bringatrailer

https://bringatrailer.com/listing/1977-caterham-super-seven-2/

Croc · September 20, 2020

NEW

LATE ADDITION

Caterham CSR260 - $30k bargain but needs work

https://losangeles.craigslist.org/lac/cto/d/san-diego-lotus-super-7-track-race-car/7195610471.html

Caterham

https://bringatrailer.com/listing/1977-caterham-super-seven-2/

Lotus 7 S2

https://www.hemmings.com/classifieds/dealer/lotus/super-seven/2433010.html

and here

https://www.automotiverestorations.com/1961-lotus-seven-series-ii

REPEATS

Westfield

https://www.ebay.com/itm/1984-Westfield-7/254714970452?hash=item3b4e320154:g:dMoAAOSwKDVfA58n

Stalker

https://www.ebay.com/itm/1965-Replica-Kit-Makes-Brunton-Stalker/303681147378?hash=item46b4ce91f2:g:FwsAAOSw4dxeD8lq

Stalker

https://www.ebay.com/itm/1970-Replica-Kit-Makes-Brunton-Stalker-XL/363083382662?hash=item548974bf86:g:1~oAAOSwwUlfQLxk

Caterham

http://britauto.com/portfolio-view/2000-caterham/

Caterham

http://britauto.com/portfolio-view/201216-nos-caterham-sv-roadsport/

Caterham

https://classiccars.com/listings/view/1363082/2004-caterham-seven-for-sale-in-newport-beach-california-92660

Replica

https://classiccars.com/listings/view/1382221/1979-lotus-seven-for-sale-in-arvada-colorado-80005

Wharton 7

https://classiccars.com/listings/view/1299993/1978-lotus-seven-for-sale-in-cadillac-michigan-49601

Stalker

http://www.race-cars.com/carsales/lotus/1437589044/1437589044ss.htm

Lotus 7 S2

https://vintageracecarsales.com/portfolio-view/lotus-7-america-vintage-race-car/

Lotus 7 S2

https://www.hemmings.com/classifieds/dealer/lotus/super-seven/2409828.html

and here

http://www.motorcarcompany.com/1963-lotus-seven-s2-1500-cosworth-2dr-roadster-for-sale-at-motor-car-company-in-california.html

Caterham

https://www.hemmings.com/classifieds/dealer/lotus/caterham/2416012.html

Caterham

http://www.beachmanracing.com/inventory

Caterham

http://rockymountaincaterham.com/inventory/

Lotus 7 S2

https://thesmiekelcollection.com/1967-lotus-super-seven/

Lotus 7 S2

https://www.fantasyjunction.com/inventory/1964-lotus-super-7-series-2/overview

Mitsuoka Zero

https://www.duncanimports.com/vehicles/547/1994-mitsuoka-zero1-roadster

Lotus 7A

https://www.hemmings.com/classifieds/cars-for-sale/lotus/7a/2388210.html

Westfield

https://miami.craigslist.org/brw/cto/d/pompano-beach-1992-westfield-sei-lotus-7/7199135243.html

Birkin

https://fortcollins.craigslist.org/cto/d/fort-collins-birkin-s3-super-7-lotus-7/7184320233.html

Stalker

https://indianapolis.craigslist.org/cto/d/carmel-1962-lotus-super-7/7195367678.html

Diva

https://phoenix.craigslist.org/nph/cto/d/prescott-diva-roadster-1962-lotus/7197841655.html

Westfield

https://prescott.craigslist.org/cto/d/chino-valley-1991-lotus-super-seven/7190847471.html

CANADA

MCC 7 project

https://www.kijiji.ca/v-classic-cars/mississauga-peel-region/mcc-7/1432118799

Edited September 20, 2020 by Croc

scannon · September 20, 2020

Mike,

What work does the CSR260 Need? The ad doesn't mention it and I don't see anything in the pictures.

Vovchandr · September 20, 2020

That does seem like quite a bargain.C

Croc in the other thread I saw the video that talked about CSR's being made in S3 chassis? I've never seen that. I though they were too narrow for inboards and were only made in SV?

SENC · September 20, 2020

Love that S2 with twink, though there doesn't appear much 1961 left in the car. Good looking and bet it goes like stink, but a high price for a bitsa.

Angelo · September 20, 2020

Looking to purchase a Zetec or Duratec 2.0, DeDion, leather seats, 5 speed Seven. Anybody know of a nice car for sale? I’m in North Georgia but willing to travel for the right car

Edited September 25, 2020 by Angelo

Croc · September 20, 2020

Mike,

What work does the CSR260 Need? The ad doesn't mention it and I don't see anything in the pictures.

Hi Skip,

"Work" should be read in the context of home work/inspection/possibly some mechanical.

My observations:

a) Google the phone number to understand what this company normally sells and read some of their other car sale ads to get a flavor. The seller is not an uniformed seller for it to be that cheap. Its cheap for a reason. Regular value would be $40-45K, possibly more if pristine. New chassis kits are $50K. Drive train is probably a $25k package these days. Struck me as strange that the VIN and license plate were obscured in an ad where you are required to disclose in order to make a sale? Carfax time.

b) Looks like it had a hit on passenger rear wing - its discolored. When it did hit, what was replaced? This is IRS and not as robust as the de dion. Really need to remove the wheel and have a close look. The hub is a billet aluminum component - not cheap to replace. Given a), you may not be able to find out.

c) This is a 2007 model so only 2 diff mount points. While you can add the 2 extra braces - fairly easy - given the track history you probably still have metal fatigue on the diff casing to address. The old style 2 point mounting failed regularly with track use unless it was upgraded - looking in the boot area would tell me if it was as the extra mounts are visible.

d) Engine - these Cosworth engines have a dry sump tower dipstick for oil levels but it does not really work as it should. You only know it is at the correct oil level when it just stops blowing oil into the catch tank - the engine knows to find its right level. Most people replaced the original plastic catch tank as the oil just misted everywhere if you followed the correct Caterham/Cosworth operating procedure to get to the right oil level. That oil catch tank is dry and no residue inside and no oil mist mess outside - so oil level could be too low and its been tracked. Oil cap is a strange one? This is the most expensive risk factor in this car. But it is a Cosworth and it is a sensational engine.

e) Clutch looks replumbed but not sure why?

f) Air box and exhaust mods look like they were designed to get under 92db so ok.

g) Mileage advertized at 500 miles but the photos tell me its much older

None of this is a deal killer at the low price but potential buyers should inspect knowing what to look for.

If anyone here is serious to buying it, I would be happy to talk through things to look for on this model CSR since this is the first time I can remember this specific curvy dash chassis version has come up on here since 2010. I doubt the seller is that informed to answer specific questions though. In person inspection probably wise but there would be USA7s folks in San Diego (Sabbot is there).

Hi Vlad - CSRs were S5 sized, i.e. identical to an SV. There were 2 S3s built using the IRS off the CSR - one of these was developmental and one was a factory engineer building one for fun for himself. Both are in the UK. One came up for sale a few years back. The reason they did not make an S3 was not packaging, although it does destroy what little boot space you have, it was more cost issues that stopped it going forward plus an understanding of the likely market to be targetted for sales (i.e. touring). This CSR for sale is SV sized.

Cheers

mike

Edited September 20, 2020 by Croc

Croc · September 20, 2020

Looking to purchase a Zetec 2.0, DeDion, leather seats, 5 speed Seven. What should a nice car cost in today’s market? Not looking to steal a car. Would like to know fair market value.

Hi Angelo.

Welcome to the USA7s forum! To answer your question you are probably looking at $26-30k area for a regular S3 Caterham. If it is S5/SV width Caterham then thats high $20s to low $30s - all depending on condition. Duratec usually adds a few extra thousand usually just because it will be a more recent year. A zetec equivalent Birkin will be circa $22-26k.

A useful resource as you are researching will be to look at current ads on the forum to get a sense of the market. Somewhat similar, check out the Bringatrailer data here:

https://bringatrailer.com/lotus/seven/

The graph at that page is going to confuse as some models went for low money and some went high - not sure I can explain why. Right day and the right car and the right seller and the right buyers and the price can be amazing. The price guide in the first paragraph should still hold if buying a car off this forum or in other markets like Ebay or Craigslist or Hemmings.

Cheers

mike

mrmustang · September 20, 2020

Looking to purchase a Zetec 2.0, DeDion, leather seats, 5 speed Seven. What should a nice car cost in today’s market? Not looking to steal a car. Would like to know fair market value.

Angelo,

Have you see this car:

http://www.usa7s.net/vb/showthread.php?12870-1998-Birkin-S3-well-sorted-and-major-updates

As a former owner, given what the current owner (I sold it to him) is selling it for, after tweaks and upgrades, it's a fantastic deal. If I had the spare cash right now, it would already be back in my garage. You cannot build a car formwhat this car is being sold for x it by 2 and even then, you may not be able to build it to it's current specs and condition. Put me out of my misery already and buy it so I do not have to agonize over it sitting out on the market, while I sit here asset rich, but cash poor.

Sincerely,

Bill S.

Edited September 21, 2020 by mrmustang

ahavams · September 21, 2020

Mike “Croc”,

Thanks for the informative post as always! How can I get in touch with you regarding some of the things to look into on the CSR?

Regards,

Jeff

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